Re: Free pass NANOG

[Lu Heng <h.lu () anytimechinese com>]

Hi everyone,


I wanted to say a quick thank you to everyone who responded to my offer of
extra passes for NANOG. All the passes have now been allocated, and I’m
really glad they’ve gone to people who can use them.


I’ve been thinking about why this doesn’t happen more often. Most of the
other sponsors are large corporations (judging by the logos), and I imagine
giving away passes comes with a lot of internal procedures and legal checks
that make it more hassle than it’s worth.


LARUS is a midsize company, and honestly, I come from the tech community
myself. I know how tough it can be to afford passes to events like this, so
when I saw I had extras, it just felt right to share them.


This wasn’t about making a big statement or setting an example. It’s just
something I could do because I personally care, and I happen to run the
company sponsoring the event. That said, I’m sure the other sponsors give
back to the community in their own ways—it just looks different for
everyone.


Thanks again for being such an awesome and responsive community. Looking
forward to seeing some of you at the event!




--
Kind regards.

Lu



On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 12:11 Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:

> It’s hard for me to understand why some people have an issue with that.
>
>
> I'm not sure anyone really has said they have an issue. I think for many
> it's generally been uncommon to see a sponsor give away their conference
> pass allocations in this manner, so perhaps that's why some comments have
> been made.
>
> Doesn't mean anyone thinks anything is wrong, just different, that's all.
>
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 9:52 PM Lu Heng <h.lu () anytimechinese com> wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > Throughout the 20th century, humanity has consistently demonstrated that
> > the central distribution and redistribution of resources are ineffective.
> >
> > To clarify, the tickets that come with sponsorship are still tickets that
> > I have purchased as part of a package deal.
> >
> > Therefore, I have paid for those tickets and am happy to donate them to
> > those in need for free.
> >
> > It’s hard for me to understand why some people have an issue with that.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 10:38, Christopher Hawker <chris () thesysadmin au>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > If, hypothetically speaking, I were a sponsor and I had spare tickets to
> > > an event that I didn't pay for or need and my intentions were truly
> > > altruistic, I'd return them to the event organiser so that they may
> > > distribute them (in line with my wishes of course). I wouldn't post to a
> > > public mailing list advertising that I was a sponsor and looking for people
> > > to give away tickets to.
> > >
> > > To be transparent, everyone is entitled to do with their tickets as they
> > > wish, and spend their money in whatever way they wish as is their right.
> > > This is simply what I would do.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Christopher Hawker
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+chris=thesysadmin.au () nanog org> on behalf
> > > of Lu Heng <h.lu () anytimechinese com>
> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2025 10:00 AM
> > > *To:* Ilissa Miller <ilissa () imillerpr com>
> > > *Cc:* NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
> > > *Subject:* Re: Free pass NANOG
> > >
> > > Hi Llissa:
> > >
> > > Thank you for your kind words.
> > >
> > > As the Diamond sponsor and meeting host for the upcoming meetings, I
> > > intend to continue this initiative throughout the year for the next few
> > > meetings as well!
> > >
> > > Please spread the word and let those in need know!
> > >
> > > There are only two to three passes left, so please act quickly if you
> > > know someone might require assistance. :)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kind regards.
> > > Lu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 22:28 Ilissa Miller <ilissa () imillerpr com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you for your very generous offer for this very important
> > > community. I hope there are people on this list that take you up on it -
> > > very kind!
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 12:07 AM Lu Heng <h.lu () anytimechinese com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I am a capitalist and philanthropist who doesn’t believe in central
> > > distribution. So, no thanks.
> > >
> > > I will give to the person in need myself.
> > >
> > > And those passes aren’t “given”, I purchased them.
> > >
> > > For those need help I still have few left, PM me.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kind regards.
> > > Lu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 07:42 Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji () gmail com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Well said @Tom and Chris. Sounds like the right way to go about this.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Sent from my mobile
> > > kindly excuse typos
> > >
> > > On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 4:33 pm Christopher Hawker, <chris () thesysadmin au>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Lu,
> > >
> > > As @Tom <beecher () beecher cc> said, you'd be better off handing them
> > > back to your NANOG rep who can then allocate them to people who need it.
> > > They would be in the best position to allocate them where they may be
> > > needed, i.e. sponsoring someone to attend who otherwise may not have the
> > > capacity to purchase a ticket.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Christopher Hawker
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+chris=thesysadmin.au () nanog org> on behalf
> > > of Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 14, 2025 1:57 AM
> > > *To:* Lu Heng <h.lu () anytimechinese com>
> > > *Cc:* NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
> > > *Subject:* Re: Free pass NANOG
> > >
> > > If NANOG has given you meeting passes that you aren't using, the best
> > > thing to do would be to contact the NANOG staff member that gave them to
> > > you and let them know you no longer need them.
> > >
> > > NANOG already has programs in place to assist students and others with
> > > meeting attendance.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 2:07 AM Lu Heng <h.lu () anytimechinese com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I have a few passes for the upcoming NANOG meeting left, in which I
> > > would like to share with people who might need assistance to attend
> > > meetings(i.e students, academic or non profit), PM me if you are one of
> > > those people.
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Kind regards.
> > > Lu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > --
> > --
> > Kind regards.
> > Lu