Re: Cats vs Mice [CAPTCHAs on Cloudflare-proxied sites]

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Have you, or anyone, tried legal action? Surely you have some amount of 
reasonable suspicion that this is a proxy network, and surely if OpenAI 
can be forced to log all conversations, then the operator of a proxy 
network can be forced to log who is making connections to a certain 
site. You can then press charges against this person for DDoS.


On 9/07/25 22:00, Brandon Martin via NANOG wrote:
> Everything folks have mentioned was my functional assumption.  It 
> seems unlikely that they'd have that much IP space under their direct 
> control, and if they did, it would be easier to block using WHOIS 
> info, origination details, etc.
>
> Now, as mentioned, there are some botnets out there that are somewhat 
> above board in that the controlled endpoints are voluntarily doing the 
> stuff they're hired to do.  They may even get paid a little.  It's 
> doubtful that the owner of the endpoint really understands the 
> ramifications of their participation, but at least they're otherwise 
> consenting and an economic beneficiary.
>
> Of course, as we all know, many or most botnets are made up primarily 
> or essentially entirely of compromised endpoints.  Now we're in "just 
> flat out illegal" territory.  Lovely.
>
> It took far less shady action than this to get (albeit very weak and 
> not particularly timely) US federal legislation on email SPAM.  I'm 
> not holding my breath for this to get addressed any time soon, though.
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