Re: Cats vs Mice [CAPTCHAs on Cloudflare-proxied sites]

[nanog--- via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

On 10/07/25 00:02, Brandon Martin via NANOG wrote:
> On 7/9/25 17:10, nanog--- via NANOG wrote:
> > Have you, or anyone, tried legal action? Surely you have some amount 
> > of reasonable suspicion that this is a proxy network, and surely if 
> > OpenAI can be forced to log all conversations, then the operator of a 
> > proxy network can be forced to log who is making connections to a 
> > certain site. You can then press charges against this person for DDoS.
>
> I'm not personally impacted by this as I don't operate any web 
> services that are being crawled.  My teeth in the game is not wanting 
> the IP space associated with the networks I run getting made unusable 
> due to factors essentially outside my control or having my subscribers 
> upset that they're constantly getting intercepted again for reasons 
> outside my control.
>
> The question of course would be if the proxy networks involved are 
> even intending to operate within legal bounds at least as far as we 
> see them in North America.  And of course that assumes there's any 
> viable way to identify the operator of them and contact that operator.

Of course they are. These are registered businesses in western countries 
(not always America) that take credit card payments. The owner either 
answers subpoenas, or goes to jail until he "decides" to start answering 
subpoenas.

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