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[NANOG] Re: The Network CLI -- Love it ? Hate it? Needed?
From: "Elmar K. Bins via NANOG" <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 23:07:23 +0000
Hi Mark, folks, IMHO there's no reason to use a GUI on a routing or switching platform; it just makes things - more complicated to achieve (properly) - more difficult to replicate - impossible to automate apart from - creating CPU load and memory overhead - blowing up the code tenfold - inviting protocol attacks and incurring CVEs galore - everybody cooking their own and nothing being familiar on mixed platforms Ggraphing etc? Fine, but why would that have to be built into the box? Debugging? Yeah, try tweaking a hundred times through a GUI. Orchestration? If you need some kind of process-oriented software for this, automation is available with a standard protocol (netconf), and it's being used with different levels of success (smart implementations allow CLI add-ins.) Nobody in their right mind clicks a config. I can, btw, see a case for a fancier frontend on firewalls, where the changes will trigger automation in the backend. But still the first thing to disable on any network gear - for me - is disabling that ***censored*** that is being forced on us. Just my 2 Eurocents, from an old fart, Elmar.
Do you love the CLI? Do you hate the CLI? Would you -- or do you already -- enjoy a world where you never need to touch the CLI, to manage your network?
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- [NANOG] The Network CLI -- Love it ? Hate it? Needed? Mark Prosser via NANOG (Mar 18)
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- [NANOG] Re: The Network CLI -- Love it ? Hate it? Needed? Dmitry Sherman via NANOG (Mar 18)
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