[NANOG] Re: The Network CLI -- Love it ? Hate it? Needed?

[Mike Hammett via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

That one, for sure. Remove or disable things that are not being used. It can't fail or be compromised if it's not there.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Moore via NANOG" <nanog () lists nanog org>
To: "North American Network Operators Group" <nanog () lists nanog org>
Cc: "Jeff Moore" <mail () jeffmoore com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2025 6:11:32 PM
Subject: [NANOG] Re: The Network CLI -- Love it ? Hate it? Needed?

Always been CLI first. Probably too oldschool but have always felt that one
of the best security commands on network gear is "no ip http server".
Old unix instructor I had always beat it into our head if you don't use it
every day remove it. Every added service/component is one more avenue into
your system and another potential failure point.





On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 4:07 PM Suresh Ramasubramanian via NANOG <
nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

> Speaking of gmail keyboard shortcuts, did you by any chance see this yet.
> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6594
>
> From: Shawn L via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
> Date: Wednesday, 19 March 2025 at 4:21 AM
> To: North American Network Operators Group <nanog () lists nanog org>
> Cc: Shawn L <shawnl () up net>
> Subject: [NANOG] Re: The Network CLI -- Love it ? Hate it? Needed?
>
>
> "Grew up" on elm and vi (someone please make a gmail addon that supports
> VI keys) -- CLI all the way.
>
> I will admit (grudgingly) that there are some things that a GUI is more
> suited for.  It can be a lot easier to visualize traffic flows with graphs,
> etc. rather than packet counters.
>
> There is also a lot of new gear where just putting a port on a vlan and
> accepting un-tagged traffic becomes a 10 line config in cli.  Who thought
> this was a good idea?  Yes, I can do it with 10 clicks in the GUI, but I
> don't want to, I want to blow a standardized config on it, then just make a
> couple of tweaks.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "borg--- via NANOG" <nanog () lists nanog org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2025 6:11pm
> To: nanog () lists nanog org
> Cc: borg () uu3 net
> Subject: [NANOG] Re: The Network CLI -- Love it ? Hate it? Needed?
>
>
>
> CLI forever ;) But more seriously. CLI is great, its quick, can
> run on toaster and its easya automated using scripting
> (generate, replace, preprocess).
>
> I like CLI to the point that my docs stuff runs under CLI terminal.
> The GUI is only used for visualizers.
> I hope that CLI will stay for a long time...
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
>
> From: Mark Prosser via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
> To: nanog () lists nanog org
> Cc: Mark Prosser <mark () zealnetworks ca>
> Subject: [NANOG] The Network CLI -- Love it ? Hate it? Needed?
> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 15:05:33 -0400
>
> Hi NANOG community,
>
> I posed this question in several chat groups, but I'd like to get your
> opinions.
>
> Do you love the CLI? Do you hate the CLI? Would you -- or do you already --
> enjoy a world where you never need to touch the CLI, to manage your
> network?
>
> This applies to both provisioning and troubleshooting; to which, you may
> have
> different answers.
>
> So far, I've seen a variety of replies around the usual "should/must/must
> not/should not".
>
> Warm regards,
>
> --
> Mark Prosser
> // E: mark () zealnetworks ca
> // W: https://zealnetworks.ca
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