Re: How Consolidation is Eroding Internet Resilience

[Tom Beecher via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

Doesn't have anything to do with big/small org size.

Two+ decades of "why run this myself, I'll just use theirs" , combined with
people assuming that the big dogs 'never go down' has gotten us here. Maybe
this CF outage didn't touch anything you care about, but I bet the more
recent AWS one did.

On Sun, Nov 23, 2025 at 11:56 AM borg--- via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
wrote:

> Indeed, spoken like a true bigboy... Small orgs should keep quiet..
> I didnt noticed any problems w/ supplies here..
> Anyway.. Keep centralizing boys... It will be good..
> For your landlords..
>
> EOF from my side..
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
>
> From: J. Hellenthal <jhellenthal () dataix net>
> To: nanog () lists nanog org
> Cc: borg () uu3 net, nanog () lists nanog org
> Subject: Re: How Consolidation is Eroding Internet Resilience
> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2025 08:50:27 -0600
>
> Sadly your view of the "internet" is as small as a pea. IRC doesn't get
> people paid and things like salesforce being down produce logistical
> problems causing trucks not to move, delivering your goods to stores
> leaving you sitting there on IRC spreading peanut butter on whatever bread
> you have left with a plastic knife until it all clears up.
>
> --
>  J. Hellenthal
>
> The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says
> a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
>
> > On Nov 23, 2025, at 06:53, borg--- via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
> wrote:
> > ˙˙Well, dont get me wrong, but this article is a bit wrong.
> > Internet != CDNs. While this is true that CDNs host a lot
> > of content these days and outage bring down a lot of sites down,
> > this doesnt mean the whole Internet is like that.
> >
> > I, for example didnt notice a thing when CloudFlare went down.
> > If not sitting on some IRC channels where I heard moaning about it
> > I would NOT know a thing that there is outage in progress ;)
> > My stuff was working, stuff I cared was working..
> >
> > Regards,
> > Borg
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original message ----------
> >
> > From: Hank Nussbacher via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
> > To: nanog () lists nanog org
> > Cc: Hank Nussbacher <hank () efes iucc ac il>
> > Subject: How Consolidation is Eroding Internet Resilience
> > Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2025 10:28:35 +0200
> https://pulse.internetsociety.org/blog/how-consolidation-is-eroding-internet-resilience
> > Some may find this of interest.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Hank
> >
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