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Re: MD5 is insecure


From: brent saner via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2025 09:53:33 -0400

On Wed, Sep 3, 2025 at 9:39 AM Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:

Brent-

Yes, IOS is storing the MD5 of the binary key data, not the base64
version. I had that wrong. Still a distinction without a difference. The
preimage problem still exists.


Tom-

Preimage is not the only attack for MD5. It's a prerequisite if you are
*only* sending exactly the attacker key on the wire. Merkle–Damgård
checksum algorithms have quite a few fun options in this space if you
aren't restricted with a fixed length.


And as you've been clearly ramping up the condescension in the last few
messages, I don't feel inclined to debate this with you any further.  Take
care.


If you're going to be confident, don't be confidently wrong. Best of luck.


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