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Re: Encryption is now illegal? (Re: U.S. Secret Service shuts down NYC cellular disruption network)
From: William Herrin via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2025 10:59:43 -0700
On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 10:25 AM Jay Acuna via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
Breaking Terms of Service you agreed to is Illegal. That is called a breach of contract, which is an illegal action or inaction.
Hi Jay, I have to pick a nit here: Illegal = something expressly forbidden by statute. Usually criminal. You could go to jail. Unlawful = inconsistent with the law. You could be sued over it but unless it's also illegal there is no future where you go to jail as a result. Breaching a contract may be unlawful but it is almost never illegal. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin bill () herrin us https://bill.herrin.us/ _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog () lists nanog org/message/4KJ2X6FUI3FW6LKATHQRNVVZBRXTJ6FX/
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