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Re: Sites unreachable while traversing Dallas IXP


From: Pierre LANCASTRE via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2025 11:16:17 -0400

Hi

Maybe you are now connected to 2 different remote devices in MLAG/VPC or
ESI, which could have MTU / routing table inconsistencies. So, as suggested
in some previous mails, did you try to deactivate the new link and keep the
bgp setup as it was originally?

Cordialement / Best regards

Pierre

Le ven. 26 sept. 2025, 11 h 06 a.m., Nick Hilliard via NANOG <
nanog () lists nanog org> a écrit :

Mel Beckman wrote on 26/09/2025 15:32:
 From

https://www.exam-labs.com/blog/configuring-lacp-between-cisco-ios-and-juniper-junos-a-step-by-step-guide


        *Understanding LACP Failures and Common Pitfalls*

Link aggregation, although a robust feature, is susceptible to various
issues. To resolve these problems effectively, network administrators
must first understand the potential causes of LACP failures. Here are
some of the most common causes for LACP issues:

 1. *Mismatched Configurations:**
    *Often, the primary reason for LACP failure is a misalignment in
    configurations between the two devices. This might include
    differences in LACP modes (active vs. passive), inconsistent
    port-channel settings, or mismatched VLANs. Proper alignment of
    settings across both devices is crucial to the successful
    negotiation of LACP.

Not sure what this has to do with your previous email, where you were
specifically referring to hashing algos needing to be the same or
"compatible" on each side of the link:

Instead you configure one of the available hash-based distribution
functions the two endpoints have in common.

I’ve found that sometimes with LAGs between different equipment vendors
one or more of these algorithms aren’t compatible, resulting in packets out
of order or even dropped.

There's no such thing as the packet hashing algorithms needing to be
"compatible" on each side of a LAG bundle. You can use whatever hashing
algo you want on either side and it doesn't make the slightest
difference at the other end. There's no concept of hashing algo
compatibility, and hashing doesn't come into play with LACP or any other
sort of negotiation.

With the link above, you're confusing LACP negotiation issues with
packet loss. If you have an LACP negotiation failure, typically the LAG
interface won't come up to start with on a juniper / cisco device.
Sometimes - rarely - you can have failure modes where an individual
bearer circuit won't be used correctly, which would cause 1/N*100%
packet loss, i.e. 50% if N=2.

Also, as this is an IXP link, it probably means that it's a single
untagged VLAN, i.e. no mismatched vlans.  Although if there is a
mismatched vlan, then that vlan will experience 100% packet loss.

Nick
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