Re: Geofeeds are adversarial — was Re: Geofeeds are good

[Kevin Tillery via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

I can confirm that streaming companies don't like it any more than users 
or ISPs. It's all on the contractual requirements forced by the media 
content providers, and they even specify which geoIP companies the 
distribution company may use.

Given the generally self-destructive state of that industry, it wouldn't 
surprise me, if geoIP companies ceased existing, media content providers 
would ban streaming altogether, lose all their viewers and go bankrupt 
themselves.


On 28/01/2026 19:09, Chris Adams via NANOG wrote:
> Once upon a time, Laszlo H <laszlo () heliacal net> said:
> > So if we only used it for pre-filling but always asked to confirm,
> > it would be no problem.  The problem is taking somebody else's word
> > over the user's or even the ISP's.
> The problem is largely the traditional media companies of various types
> trying to continue to apply cable-TV-centric geographical limitations to
> streaming.  Whether it's a streaming provider only having rights to show
> a movie in certain countries or live sports streams being limited to
> certain cities, it's inherently an adversarial action, where the
> streaming company cannot trust the attempted viewer.
>
> It's a never-ending match-up between streamers/GeoIP companies and
> viewers and VPN providers, with lots of legitimate would-be viewers
> blocked out from things they should have access to but GeoIP has wrong
> data.
>
> I remember trying to explain why geographic boundaries and network
> boundaries were not connected to a marketing person in the 1990s,
> nothing has really changed, but there's big money in pretending it has.
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