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Re: New DNS vulnerability: political overreach


From: Tom Beecher via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2026 21:34:20 -0400


My concern, and this is where I think the law could stand improvement,
is that the court co-opted a distant third party in its remedy for the
dispute. They interfered with a contract between Verisign and one of
its registrars, neither of which was a party to the lawsuit about
Kick's behavior, neither of which was accused of any wrongdoing, and
neither of which was more than tenuously operating within the court's
geographical jurisdiction. That doesn't seem like something the law
should allow, at least not of a state court.


I agree. But I don't think it's a case of the law needing improvement. This
is a problem with the Texas state courts ruling on things that seem to be
very clearly a federal question , which they have been doing with
increasing regularity in the last decade or so.

Last I knew the legality of federal orders to seize .com domains was still
semi-unsettled, with lots of legal challenges still being made. (Anne can
surely correct me if I am wrong on this.) So precedent, but not quite
settled. Having Texas wade into the pool and take a big dump will surely
not help get that clarity any time soon.



On Mon, Jul 27, 2026 at 7:48 PM William Herrin via NANOG <
nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

On Mon, Jul 27, 2026 at 3:48 PM Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via NANOG
<nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
Bill is correct that they should have *removed* it to federal court.
Ignoring it was about the most stupid thing they could do, as,
again with a nod to Bill, when you default you lose by, well, default.

Hi Anne,

My concern, and this is where I think the law could stand improvement,
is that the court co-opted a distant third party in its remedy for the
dispute. They interfered with a contract between Verisign and one of
its registrars, neither of which was a party to the lawsuit about
Kick's behavior, neither of which was accused of any wrongdoing, and
neither of which was more than tenuously operating within the court's
geographical jurisdiction. That doesn't seem like something the law
should allow, at least not of a state court.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


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