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RE: IPv4 flag day


From: Gary Sparkes via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2026 16:03:04 +0000

Code running in a browser isn't a concern? That foothold can be extremely minimal, non-persistent, and enable far 
greater attack/leveraging than otherwise available. 

But yes, this technique of allowing inbound traffic flows to bypass NAT is something that's somewhat common (STUN 
servers anyone?) to support NAT legitimately, so it's hard to keep out of the mix. 

As I've noted in previous parts of this discussion, this is an example of the kind of NAT support network code I've 
ripped out of applications I maintain. So in 1:many NAT scenarios, it's no longer plug-and-play. But it's far simpler 
and easier to maintain.  

-----Original Message-----
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us> 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2026 10:43 AM
To: Gary Sparkes <gary () kisaracorporation com>
Cc: North American Network Operators Group <nanog () lists nanog org>
Subject: Re: IPv4 flag day

On Thu, Jun 18, 2026 at 7:23 AM Gary Sparkes <gary () kisaracorporation com> wrote:
My reference was to opening inbound traffic avenues, not outbound.

Then I don't know what you're talking about. Once you have a foothold inside the network, you're past the firewall and 
the benefits it gave you. Regardless of whether you used NAT.

Regards,
Bill Herrin

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