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Re: Feedback requested - XML XSL transform changes
From: Fyodor <fyodor () insecure org>
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:42:00 -0800
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:01:30PM -0600, Tom Sellers wrote:
All,
I have attached an updated version of the nmap XML XSL transform
document, nmap.xsl.
Hi Tom. I'm delighted to see you working on this, as I believe the
XSL could be extremely useful to Nmap users if it is improved. I just
did some sample scans with the latest SVN version of nmap.xsl. Since
you asked for feedback, here are a bunch of suggestions:
o The host index at the very top of the file is rather unwieldy. For
example, a scan of scanme.nmap.org shows "64.13.134.52 /
scanme.nmap.org / scanme.nmap.org". In this case, scanme.nmap.org
is repeated twice. But even if it wasn't, I think we should limit
it to one host name like Nmap does in its host scan report header.
We should probably use the same algorithm Nmap does to decide which
hostname to use. In addition, it is hard to mentally parse when the
IP and host name(s) for a single host are separated with "/", and
different hosts with "|". Those look too similar. I think it would
be better to use this traditional Nmap-style format:
"corn02.Stanford.EDU (171.67.216.67)"
o A red color is used in the host index to denote down hosts, and in
the port tables to denote closed ports. Red is often used in reports
to highlight the most interesting/important information, but closed
ports and down hosts are among the least interesting entries. So I
think they should either use a default color (e.g. plain black) or
maybe more subtle gray or something could be used.
o I'm not sure that the traceroute table needs to be green. Maybe
just plain white would be fine?
o It might be worth migrating "runstats" and "scan info" sections
which appear at the bottom into the "scan summary" section which
appears at the top. Also, I think the presentation of those
sections could be improved. Right now it is just a list of short
facts like "171 host(s) offline". You might be able to save
vertical space by placing the information in a table, or using a
sentence format like Nmap does ("Nmap done at Sun Nov 14 14:55:55
2010 -- 259 IP addresses (88 hosts up) scanned in 2029.02
seconds").
o There is a lot of information in Nmap XML which we don't show in
normal Nmap results because it is rarely useful. But since XML
isn't meant to be read by humans, there is little harm in including
obscure details like the exact TCP timestamp sequence and IPID
sequence values. Just because these are in the XML doesn't mean
they need to be in the HTML. For example, does the average user
really care about the remote OS guess "reference fingerprint line
number"? In general, I don't think the HTML needs to prevent more
by default than normal Nmap output shows you. But one big advantage
of the HTML over normal Nmap output is that you could consider
making a details expander for each host. Then the user could click
"+" (or whatever) to see the really obscure stuff. There could even
be an "expand all details" button up top. And for the stuff we do
want to show, it would be nice to think about whether it can be
presented in a better way than an enumerated list of short facts
directly from the XML.
o Related to the idea above: you could consider omitting the closed
ports and down hosts by default, unless the user clicked a button to
add them (there could be a controls/customization section near the
top, I suppose). I'm starting to wonder if Nmap should even include
closed and filtered ports in the host table by default--maybe they
should just be listed.
o Nmap has a neat way to show how traceroute results differ from that
of a previously shown host. If that information is exported to the
XML, it might be better to show by default than the full table for
each host (it could have a link to the reference host). Even better
might be an option to show either the full table or the
differences. Like you could show the differences by default, with
an expander to show the full table if desired. If Nmap doesn't
export this information in the XML, maybe we should.
o There is a section titled "remote operating system guess" which
should probably be "guesses" since it usually contains several
values. It might be nice if it used text more like Nmap, noting
that there are no exact matches but here is a list of the closest
ones. And I don't think you need to give things like "reference
fingerprint line number: 9336" for each entry. Although it looks
like this section is used if a result is exact too.
o It would be nice to see OS detection (operating system and/or system
type) icons for introducing hosts. But a challenge is that we'd
prefer not to load them off a 3rd party site like nmap.org because I
suppose that could be a privacy risk. It would tell that a user
from the IP was reading an Nmap scan report and it contains at least
one of the device type or operating system identified by the logo.
Isn't there a way to include small images inline by including the
hex data?
o This would be a big job, but I think it would be a neat feature if
you could click a control and change the viewing mode from "list of
hosts with the services accessible on them" to a big list of
services listing the IP they represent. They would probably be
sorted by port number or service name, allowing someone to easily
(for example) find all the SSH servers. Then again, maybe at this
point they should just use Zenmap.
Anyway, I think your recent improvements are good ones and I'd love to
see further improvements in this XSL.
Cheers,
Fyodor
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- Feedback requested - XML XSL transform changes Tom Sellers (Nov 11)
- Re: Feedback requested - XML XSL transform changes David Fifield (Nov 11)
- Re: Feedback requested - XML XSL transform changes Tom Sellers (Nov 14)
- Re: Feedback requested - XML XSL transform changes Tom Sellers (Nov 14)
- Re: Feedback requested - XML XSL transform changes David Fifield (Nov 14)
- Re: Feedback requested - XML XSL transform changes Tom Sellers (Nov 14)
- Re: Feedback requested - XML XSL transform changes Fyodor (Nov 14)
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- Re: Feedback requested - XML XSL transform changes Fyodor (Dec 08)
