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Re: Coordinated Disclosure in the LLM Age
From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 21 May 2026 23:00:03 -0400
On Tue, Apr 28, 2026 at 11:00 AM Jeremy Stanley <fungi () yuggoth org> wrote:
As I'm sure is the case for everyone, the projects I work in are under a seemingly unending deluge of vulnerability reports from researchers using LLMs to mine for security gold in our software. At the same time, we see maintainers on our projects relying on LLM-oriented tools to develop fixes for vulnerabilities and compose prose for advisories. While I take a moment to catch my breath, this new Bizarro World we're all living in has gotten me thinking about the risks of public LLM services to embargoed vulnerability handling workflows and traditional coordinated disclosure. The operators of these LLM services are known to feed prompts and results back into their training data, presumably making it faster and easier for the same information to be found later by other users of the same service. Would keeping embargoes short help to mitigate related risks of parallel rediscovery or outright disclosure to other LLM users? It seems to me that there must be some inherent lag in this process, but how much? I'm sorely tempted, both due to the increased volume and the risk of premature disclosure, to just assume that any vulnerability reported as a result of research using an LLM is trivially discoverable by others, and give up trying to pretend there's any point to working it under embargo. Similarly, it makes sense to me that patch development and descriptive prose shouldn't be produced with LLM assistance for any vulnerability that is being worked under an embargo. I can't be the only one whose been pondering this... what positions have the rest of you taken?
Anthropic has a long article at [0]. If you scroll down beyond the
explanations for the vulnerabilities the tool found, you land in a
section titled "Suggestions for defenders today". From that section:
Think beyond vulnerability finding. Frontier models can also
accelerate defensive work in many other ways. For example, they can:
* Provide a first-round triage to evaluate the correctness and
severity of bug reports;
* De-duplicate bug reports and otherwise help with the triage
processes;
* Assist in writing reproduction steps for vulnerability reports;
* Write initial patch proposals for bug reports;
* Analyze cloud environments for misconfigurations;
* Aid engineers in reviewing pull requests for security bugs;
* Accelerate migrations from legacy systems to more secure ones;
They seem like good suggestions. However, if you are going to use AI
to find bugs and perform the triage, then the project must have a very
good and comprehensive set of test cases (both positive and negative).
While this is needed for both Natural Intelligence changes and AI
changes, I believe it is more important because AI is not going to
have a lot of Natural Intelligence oversight at times.
[0] Assessing Claude Mythos Preview’s cybersecurity capabilities,
<https://red.anthropic.com/2026/mythos-preview/>.
Jeff
Current thread:
- Re: Coordinated Disclosure in the LLM Age, (continued)
- Re: Coordinated Disclosure in the LLM Age Alan Coopersmith (May 20)
- Re: Coordinated Disclosure in the LLM Age ROI AI (May 21)
- Re: Coordinated Disclosure in the LLM Age ROI AI (May 21)
- Re: Coordinated Disclosure in the LLM Age Jacob Bachmeyer (May 21)
- Re: Coordinated Disclosure in the LLM Age ROI AI (May 21)
- Re: Coordinated Disclosure in the LLM Age Jacob Bachmeyer (May 22)
- Re: Coordinated Disclosure in the LLM Age ROI AI (May 24)
- Re: Coordinated Disclosure in the LLM Age Solar Designer (May 24)
- Re: Coordinated Disclosure in the LLM Age Jacob Bachmeyer (May 24)
- Re: Coordinated Disclosure in the LLM Age ROI AI (May 24)
- Re: Coordinated Disclosure in the LLM Age ROI AI (May 21)
- Re: Coordinated Disclosure in the LLM Age Alan Coopersmith (May 20)
