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RE: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.)
From: "Stanley G. Bubrouski" <stan () ccs neu edu>
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 17:21:09 -0400 (EDT)
On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, David Schwartz wrote:
I can't believe anyone honestly considers a "counter-attack" worm the same as self-defense. Deadly force, or otherwise normally illegal amounts of force, is justified only in defense of your life, or the lives of others, your physical well-being, or the physical well-being of others. Defense is something done to prevent something from happening, retaliation is something done in response to a previous act. Furthermore, from what I gather, it's not even retaliatory, it's pre-emptive, being a automated worm like CR. In any case, it is illegal, and rather morally and ethically suspect. Releasing yet another worm that attempts unauthorized access to someone's machine, and then runs code on it is illegal.Say someone has left a loaded gun on their lawn, where anyone could pick it up and shoot it at anything they chose. Is it morally justified to trespass onto their property to remove and unload the gun? Do you have to wait until you see a child nearby? Until a child picks up the gun?
This isn't about guns and it's not about children. If someone uses a compromised system and does something destructive, it's in the hands of the infected user or his or her company to deal with it. It's not up to you or anyone else to decide what's best for other people's property.
DS
Regards, Stan -- Stan Bubrouski stan () ccs neu edu 23 Westmoreland Road, Hingham, MA 02043 Cell: (617) 835-3284
Current thread:
- CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Herbert HexXer (Sep 01)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Markus Kern (Sep 01)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Stanley G. Bubrouski (Sep 05)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Paige, Randall (Sep 04)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Markus Kern (Sep 04)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) DerHexXer (Sep 05)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Markus Kern (Sep 05)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Meritt James (Sep 05)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Blue Boar (Sep 05)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Blue Boar (Sep 05)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Stanley G. Bubrouski (Sep 05)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Markus Kern (Sep 05)
