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Re: BlackICE IDS
From: rgula () network-defense com (Ron Gula)
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 11:03:03 -0800
Hi all, It should be pointed out that Mr. Graham is an employee of Network Ice Corp. Obviously Marcus is from NFR and I am from Security Wizards. Having said that, I agree with most of the points he makes about BlackICE. And by agreeing, it is in no way a nod that says one IDS is better than another. Most network security engineers test several different products before selecting a solution. Sometimes they buy Dragon, sometimes they buy BlackICE. No one ever gets fired for buying Cisco or ISS for that matter either. My largest concern is with BlackICE's marketing claims of protecting the CEO's laptop with a packet based IDS. During my past experience conducting many penetration tests and network security audits, targeting a CEO's computer usually revealed completely shared out hard drives and similar usernames and passwords. Adding an IDS to this situation did not help much. But if the CEO is security aware then by all means, load up BlackICE, Symantec's anti-virus products, Back Officer Friendly, NT Objectives Desktop Sentry, a proprietary network shim so that the CEO can communicate with the company's VPN, the Tripwire version of NT, some Java and Active X "sandbox" style security programs possibly from Pelican Security, and while all that is occurring, keep up with the latest service patches and bug fixes for the laptop. If the CEO is not security friendly, then I would first invest the time and effort to educate the CEO. FYI, BlackICE was recently reviewed in NWC's IDS article and they had a lot of good things to say about including its performance and accurate network session reconstruction. The URL for the BlackICE piece is at: http://www.nwc.com/1023/1023f18.html Ron Gula Network Security Wizards
Current thread:
- BlackICE IDS Riley, Steven (Dec 03)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: BlackICE IDS Marcus J. Ranum (Dec 03)
- Re: BlackICE IDS Robert Graham (Dec 03)
- Re: BlackICE IDS Ron Gula (Dec 04)
- Re: BlackICE IDS John S Flowers (Dec 03)
- Re: BlackICE IDS Robert Graham (Dec 04)
- Re: BlackICE IDS John S Flowers (Dec 04)
- Re: BlackICE IDS (More comments ...) Ron Gula (Dec 05)
- Re: BlackICE IDS Dug Song (Dec 04)
- BlackICE Defender w/ McAfee/NAI PGP Desktop Shawn A. Clifford (Dec 07)
- RE: BlackICE Defender w/ McAfee/NAI PGP Desktop Bill Royds (Dec 07)
- Hacking Exposed Wagner Brett (Dec 08)
- Re: Hacking Exposed Eric Budke (Dec 08)
- Nice IDS links Dano (Dec 08)
- Re: BlackICE IDS John S Flowers (Dec 04)
