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RE: BlackICE Defender w/ McAfee/NAI PGP Desktop


From: broyds () home com (Bill Royds)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 22:14:37 -0500



I have both of them working with no problem (NT4.0 SP5). SP6 has problems with the TCP/IP stack so that is probably 
where you run
into difficulties. There is a SP6a version that has some hot fixes.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ids () uow edu au [mailto:owner-ids () uow edu au]On Behalf Of
Shawn A. Clifford
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 10:19
To: ids () uow edu au
Subject: IDS: BlackICE Defender w/ McAfee/NAI PGP Desktop

On a side note to the original discussion, I have encountered the following
problem.

My home machine is an "ancient" 100MHz 486 w/ 52 MB RAM, running NT 4.0 SP 6, PGP
Desktop 6.0 from McAfee, and BlackICE Defender.  The BlackICE service starts,
aborts, and tries again in 5 minutes.  After which, the service is unable to run
because it can't open/bind to the adapter.

I became suspicious that the product wasn't working because once I bought
BlackICE Defender, I put it in "paranoid" mode, then went to the
http://www.grc.com page and requested a port scan of my machine.  BlackICE didn't
make a peep!

I really wish NetworkICE would put together a Web page that would do a test of
your installed system by simulating an attack sequence or probe sequence that
should set off the alarms at the different levels.  That way the customer can
validate the software.  I wonder how many people have bought the software,
installed it, and don't even realize that it isn't running because the service
died without notice?

To their credit, the guys at NetworkICE were working with me for a while, emailing
me updates to try out, but I haven't heard anything from them in the past 4
weeks.  I suspect the problem is with whatever the "PGP Net" driver/wrapper has
done to my dialup interface.

Both of these products are only ~$40, available by network download, so I would
think NetworkICE has got a copy of PGP Desktop to test with their product.  I
can't be the only person who wants privacy and security features on their home
Internet PC?

Has anyone else tried these two products together?

Regards,
-- Shawn Clifford <sac2 () compuserve com>



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