Re: BlackICE Defender w/ McAfee/NAI PGP Desktop

[budke () budke com (Eric Budke)]

At 10:18 AM 12/7/99 , Shawn A. Clifford wrote:
> ---
> On a side note to the original discussion, I have encountered the following
> problem.
>
> My home machine is an "ancient" 100MHz 486 w/ 52 MB RAM, running NT 4.0 SP 
> 6, PGP
> Desktop 6.0 from McAfee, and BlackICE Defender.  The BlackICE service starts,
> aborts, and tries again in 5 minutes.  After which, the service is unable 
> to run
> because it can't open/bind to the adapter.
>
> I became suspicious that the product wasn't working because once I bought
> BlackICE Defender, I put it in "paranoid" mode, then went to the
> http://www.grc.com page and requested a port scan of my machine.  BlackICE 
> didn't
> make a peep!
>
> I really wish NetworkICE would put together a Web page that would do a test of
> your installed system by simulating an attack sequence or probe sequence that
> should set off the alarms at the different levels.  That way the customer can
> validate the software.  I wonder how many people have bought the software,
> installed it, and don't even realize that it isn't running because the service
> died without notice?
>
> To their credit, the guys at NetworkICE were working with me for a while, 
> emailing
> me updates to try out, but I haven't heard anything from them in the past 4
> weeks.  I suspect the problem is with whatever the "PGP Net" 
> driver/wrapper has
> done to my dialup interface.
>
> Both of these products are only ~$40, available by network download, so I 
> would
> think NetworkICE has got a copy of PGP Desktop to test with their product.  I
> can't be the only person who wants privacy and security features on their home
> Internet PC?

I seriously would suspect the PGP desktop, more specifically the PGP net. 
It has caused a number of issues on my boxes. Ironically and specifically 
Cybercop can't bind to the interface if PGPnet is attached to it. Try 
binding PGPnet to a different interface (it might mean throwing in a dummy 
card or something.) Given that the two products are produced from the same 
company, I find it hilarious. But, I know NAI will not be the last company 
to have incompatible products.

This causes a problem if you are using the PGPnet software, which I haven't 
actually gone through yet. But it will get your other products working. And 
while I have little knowledge of the BlackICE product (other than here in 
the last week or so) I really don't think it is something they can be 
faulted with. I'd yell at NAI, as it screws up other products as well, 
including some of their own.

> Has anyone else tried these two products together?
>
>
> Regards,
> -- Shawn Clifford <sac2 () compuserve com>

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