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Re: RE: Network Utilization discussion...
From: rgula () network-defense com (Ron Gula)
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 09:25:17 -0800
What's very clear (at a minimum) from this thread and others like it is: There is no Gigabit or FDDI IDS solution. ISPs who are sporting OC -12s and OC-48s cannot expect Intrusion Detection Systems to work accurately for them, especially if most of the IDS world cannot reliably capture DS-3 utilitization levels.
- FDDI is mostly an interface problem. Dragon has been deployed on several FDDI networks through the use of dedicated media converters. Any other packet IDS should be able to do this. Many other NIDS can read directly from FDDI networks. (Read Bob Graham's IDS FAQ) FDDI is also 100 Mb/s and should be able to be monitored by a wide variety of NIDS unless the data rates are in access of 50-60 Mb/s. Once the data goes above those rates it really depends on which NIDS you test, what your data is and how you configure the NIDS. - OC-3, OC-12 and OC-48 interfaces require a "bump on the wire" or a passive tap. That is, the OC link gets plugged into a box that does "passive" IDS before moving the packets or some sort of silvered mirror tap (like a Shomiti tap) is used to pull off the light signal. Of course more sophisticated software is required to rebuild the ATM traffic. The "bump" approach tends to slow down any network traffic and is usually very cost prohibitive. It also usually fought by any WAN engineer because it is a single point of failure. Some high-end products use the passive tap approach and we will be incorporating this into future Dragon Appliance offerings. - We're finding that most of our high bandwidth customers are using full duplex Ethernet (~200 Mb/s), Gigabit Ethernet or IP over SONET. Ron Gula Network Security Wizards
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- RE: Network Utilization discussion... Ryan M. Ferris (Dec 06)
- Re: RE: Network Utilization discussion... Misha (Dec 06)
- IDS Dafunquia, Facundo (Dec 07)
- Re: IDS Trevor Schroeder (Dec 07)
- Re: RE: Network Utilization discussion... Ron Gula (Dec 07)
- Half-Assed Review site Troy Billington (Dec 28)
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- RE: BlackICE IDS Bill Royds (Dec 06)
- Sharing Information [Was: BlackICE IDS] John S Flowers (Dec 06)
- new subscriber... Bernard Clairmont (Dec 07)
- Re: Sharing Information [Was: BlackICE IDS] Ron Gula (Dec 07)
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