Intrusion Detection Systems mailing list archives
Re: BlackICE IDS
From: mjr () nfr net (Marcus J. Ranum)
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 13:31:42 -0500
<QUOTE>blackice runs at 148,000 packets per second, checks all 7 layers of the stack and rates each attack on a scale of 1 to 100 so that only attacks it considers serious are alerted on</QUOTE>
It's somewhat deceptive marketing, in my opinion - perhaps someone from Network Ice could clarify/contradict if I'm off base. As I understand it, the product is a cross between a firewall "shim" at the bottom of the IP stack, and an intrusion detection system. Since it's operating in the bottom of an individual machine's IP stack, it doesn't need to deal with packets promiscuously; it's more like a firewall doing multilayer packet inspection with some attack detection thrown in. So, it's a host-based solution. Arguing that it can run at <some number> of packets/second is pointless since it's really based on the number of packets directed to the host in question. "BlackICE is a sophisticated application that is designed to run on every PC in your extended enterprise" It's definitely not a sniffer-type IDS, which means the packets/second count is irrelevant. Host based IDS are free to drop all the packets they like, since the loading and retransmission properties are very different from a sniffer-type IDS. I'm sure it's a fine solution if you want to watch your Windows machines and only your windows machines, and are willing to shim out the bottom of IP on every desktop and server. mjr. -- Marcus J. Ranum, CEO, Network Flight Recorder, Inc. work - http://www.nfr.net home - http://www.clark.net/pub/mjr
Current thread:
- BlackICE IDS Riley, Steven (Dec 03)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: BlackICE IDS Marcus J. Ranum (Dec 03)
- Re: BlackICE IDS Robert Graham (Dec 03)
- Re: BlackICE IDS Ron Gula (Dec 04)
- Re: BlackICE IDS John S Flowers (Dec 03)
- Re: BlackICE IDS Robert Graham (Dec 04)
- Re: BlackICE IDS John S Flowers (Dec 04)
- Re: BlackICE IDS (More comments ...) Ron Gula (Dec 05)
- Re: BlackICE IDS Dug Song (Dec 04)
- BlackICE Defender w/ McAfee/NAI PGP Desktop Shawn A. Clifford (Dec 07)
- RE: BlackICE Defender w/ McAfee/NAI PGP Desktop Bill Royds (Dec 07)
- Hacking Exposed Wagner Brett (Dec 08)
- Re: BlackICE IDS John S Flowers (Dec 04)
(Thread continues...)
