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Re: Route optimization using GPUs?


From: Pedro Prado <pedro.prado () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:07:23 +0000

I'd imagine the GPUs would be used to help the control plane only, to
bulk-process several prefix updates?

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On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 at 17:58, <sronan () ronan-online com> wrote:

This is part of why the old systems that were mentioned only optimized the
top n routes based on traffic flow (or other configurable  metric), because
the cost vs. benefit falls off greatly.

Shane

On Dec 5, 2024, at 12:52 PM, Andrey Slastenov <a.slastenov () gmail com>
wrote:



+nanog


Greetings, Drew

We don't use GPUs, but we have worked on a similar project focused on
traffic optimization. I would say that the ping issue is one of the top
pain points, even more significant than route recalculation. The more
routes you try to monitor and optimize, the more significant the problem
will become.

Regarding optimization itself, I don't think you would want to optimize
the entire routing table at the same time. From a calculation perspective,
I don't believe it's a major problem at this point. Please correct me if
I'm wrong.


Regards,

Andrey

чт, 5 дек. 2024 г. в 18:32, Drew Weaver <drew.weaver () thenap com>:

So back in the.. hell I don’t know like… early 2010s there was a push for
‘route optimization’ from products like RouteScience and the Avaya CNA and
more recently whatever Noction is doing.



The big pain point for this technology at the time was that it could only
optimize the top N egress routes due to how many probes it could send out
and how many results it could process.



It seems like now with a modest GPU in a router you could pretty easily
‘optimize’ [to the extent that you believe this technology worked] pretty
much the whole routing table.



We used these tools extensively back then and they actually worked pretty
well in most cases. The biggest issue we ran into was people complaining
that we pinged their IP addresses… which now a days seems like a great
worst problem to have.



Anyway is anyone doing any work on implementing GPUs into the BGP
decision making process? Seems like a no brainer.



-Drew





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