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Re: Can an IXP sell IP transit?


From: Zach Underwood <zach () zachunderwood me>
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:12:43 -0500

Agreed, Microsoft process is painful with forced to use the azure
interface. Meta and cloudflare have nice portals that use peeringdb for
auth.

On Sun, Nov 17, 2024, 12:03 PM Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:

And so many of those bilateral processes are just simply broken.



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----- Original Message -----
From: Will Hargrave <will () harg net>
To: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Sent: Thu, 07 Nov 2024 11:22:34 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Can an IXP sell IP transit?

On 5 Nov 2024, at 16:56, Tom Beecher wrote:

Especially so if a few of the large content providers continue to pull
back from route servers and such.
Content providers aren't leaving IXP's completely. They're still there,
still paying monthly for ports and XCs. Still doing bilateral peering
over
the IX. There's no revenue hit to an IXP for a CDN to de-peer off the
route
servers.

Hi Tom,

I don’t really think your last statement is true.

UK, and London in particular, is quite a dynamic market. At LONAP we see
plenty of networks connect and see an immediate “quick win” of traffic by
connection to our route-servers, where adoption among the membership is
something like 85-90%.

If an operator decides to replace those RS sessions with a (often
intractable) portal to request bilateral sessions - or worse, email - that
immediate traffic benefit is lost. That can affect the value the IXP
provides to its members.

Will



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