Re: Can an IXP sell IP transit?

[Mike Tindor <mtindor () gmail com>]

I'm aware that I sent something via email inadvertently to the NANOG list.
Sorry about that.  If I could remove it I would.

Sorry about that

Mike


On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 4:58 PM Peter Potvin <
peter.potvin () accuristechnologies ca> wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Please verify you are emailing the correct person. I have no idea how this
> thread relates to a domain name transfer but I highly recommend verifying
> the recipient of your emails to make sure they go to the right place.
>
> Regards,
> Peter
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 4:57 PM Mike Tindor <mtindor () gmail com> wrote:
>
> > The ... AUTH code did NOT work
> >
> > stbernadettewv.org Canceled - Invalid EPP/authorization key - Please
> > contact current registrar to obtain correct key
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 4:51 PM Mike Tindor <mtindor () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> > > Assuming the code is correct and that you will be getting the email,l
> > > you should get any email any time.
> > >
> > > stbernadettewv.org Domain awaiting transfer initiation
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 4:46 PM Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > I don't think there is any satisfactory argument that can be made for
> > > > > wanting to avoid route server routing. For the content/cloud folk, I think
> > > > > avoiding it provides a mechanism via which they can screen for the utility
> > > > > of having to keep an exchange point node upgraded and optimized for service.
> > > >
> > > > Plenty of eyeball networks will announce prefixes differently via a
> > > > bilateral session vs a route server session vs DFZ, then come yelling
> > > > because traffic isn't going the way they expected it to. There can be times
> > > > that the administrative overhead of dealing with those folks far outweighs
> > > > any financial or performance benefits.
> > > >
> > > > Route servers are generally useful, but can be a royal pain in the ass
> > > > too, depending on how they're used.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:35 PM Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 11/7/24 21:42, Randy Bush wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > i used to resist.  my instinct is that the data plane and the control
> > > > > plane should be congruent or you can have hard to debug issues[0].
> > > > > but, as i have gotten older and lazier, and as you say, route servers
> > > > > have gotten quite reliable, i have come over to the route server side.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think there is any satisfactory argument that can be made for
> > > > > wanting to avoid route server routing. For the content/cloud folk, I think
> > > > > avoiding it provides a mechanism via which they can screen for the utility
> > > > > of having to keep an exchange point node upgraded and optimized for service.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark.