Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

[William Herrin <bill () herrin us>]

On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 11:05 AM David Conrad <drc () virtualized org> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 2024, at 10:00 PM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:
> > It seems to me that an RIR should be expected to locate itself in a legal jurisdiction where they're unlikely to be 
> > ordered to alter service that is within their territory but outside of that legal jurisdiction.
> > Moreover, it seems to me that they should routinely monitor the local and regional legal environments and maintain 
> > contingency plans for relocation in the event of adverse changes.
>
> Having long ago had some experience relocating a (much, much smaller)
> RIR from one legal jurisdiction to another, this would be a non-trivial
> undertaking with significant cost and implying a high level of disruption,

Hi David,

Hence the need for _contingency planning_ performed under no time
pressure far in advance of any action. And since no jurisdiction is
immune, that contingency planning includes figuring out how much
interference is enough that the trigger should be pulled on executing
the plan. You figure these things out in advance so that when the
pressure is on there's no need for hand-wringing; you just follow the
plan.

Really, it's just another part of the disaster recovery planning. A
different failure mode that requires recovery.


> > To the extent that the ICP offers ICANN authority over the number system, ICANN must do the same.
>
> I suspect this is a bit outside the scope of the current effort.

Under proposed principles - governance - authority, the draft says,
"ICANN shall have final authority to..."

So long as ICANN is meant to hold the final authority in any matter
relevant to the RIR system, the question of external interference in
ICANN operations is in scope for the effort.


> While geographic monopolies may have made sense in the past, it is unclear to me how/why they make sense today 
> (unless the point is to create/perpetuate a cartel).

They discourage forum shopping. Forum shopping tends to cause a race
to the bottom. It's unhealthy.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


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