Re: Small / Rural ISP owners

[Aaron Atac via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>]

Tom hit the nail on the head of my points, a lot of multiplayer video games are hosted on a server in a hyper scaler, 
AWS for example, or players can make their own PCs/Consoles the game server as well.

Lobbies are formed, goal is get 20 people into the lobby with minimal rtt to game server and minimal standard deviation 
in each player’s rtt to game server compared to the rest of the lobby to have as equal of an experience as possible 
amongst all players.

However, there can be players in rural areas or beyond networks with not as fast of an RTT to these hyper scalers like 
AWS where they are the odd player out.

What this results in is a player waiting much longer to find a lobby of players with comparable rtt to them.

Even worse, they will probably get put in a lobby where their standard deviation in rtt is still higher than everyone 
else.

Imagine a FPS (first person shooter).

Player 1 and Player 2 are facing each other ready to fire.

Player 1 has 10ms rtt to game server.

Player 2 has 20ms rtt to game server.

In real time, player 2 hits the trigger first, but due to higher latency, player 1 in game time kills player 2 first.

These games are by the millisecond game play in terms of who is victorious and have large market share.

-Aaron

Nov 22, 2024 at 9:56 AM by nanog () nanog org:

> I can tell you this was the  problem Subspace was trying to resolve, but then went out of business.
>
> Specifically, Subspace wasn’t focused on caching video game updates and distributing those better, but rather 
> building a network for clients to access game servers with lower rtt for a more optimal experience in multiplayer 
> video games.
>
> WTFast was the next best thing last I heard.
> -Aaron
>
> Nov 22, 2024 at 7:37 AM by mehmet () akcin net:
>
> > Are there a lot of gamers in rural areas? Do the rural ISPs have challenges with reaching gaming servers. I do not 
> > know if gaming or caching or both a challenge for rural isps due to being distant from population centers and 
> > possibly caches
> >
> > Mehmet
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 08:32 Josh Luthman <> josh () imaginenetworksllc com> > wrote:
> >
> > > Might want to say why.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 6:50 AM Mehmet <>> mehmet () akcin net>> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello - i am looking for small ISP owners, Rural ISPs in FL, TX, NY, VA, CA (but anywhere in the world is fine). 
> > > >
> > > > If anyone lurking on the list please contact me offlist
> > > >
> > > > Mehmet
> > > > +1-424-298-1903