Re: Where else do you hangout?

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On 21/08/25 16:04, Jared Mauch via NANOG wrote:
> I will say this:
>
> We used to live in a world where most people on the list ran their own DNS, NNTP, IRC, E-mail etc servers and services 
> and understood how each end-to-end bit worked together.  We seem to be much further from that these days, people either 
> know the hosts or the network but not both, the applications but not the operating system.

This may be due to the broadening of the scope of the list. I assume at 
one time the North American Network Operators Group exclusively 
consisted of people who Operated North American Networks. And I assume 
most of those people are still here. But people (or at least I) now 
receive information from farther and farther afield; I expect the number 
of tangentially interested people, university students, etc. on this 
list has increased much faster than the number of actual network operators.

It seems like *you* really Operate a real North American Network, but 
you're replying to someone with a Russian name and a mail server hosted 
on AWS, who probably doesn't. I know that I have certainly never set 
foot in North America, nor do I Operate a real Network (DN42 isn't real 
- it's a grown-up lab exercise).

> It’s important to understand more of what is going on in the adjacent systems and network elements as that impacts the 
> outcomes that we design and engineer for these days.
>
> - Jared
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