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Re: What are folks using for serial consoles these days?


From: Matt Brennan via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2025 09:43:33 -0500

Up until recently I was using the Raritan Dominion SX II models. Dual PSU,
dual NIC, and configurations ranging from 4 to 48 ports.  However, Raritan
has just discontinued that as of June. It is unclear how long they will
continue to provide security patches.

They are recommending customers switch to the ZPE Systems Nodegrid Serial
Consoles. It looks to be much the same, but I haven't had a chance to test
one yet. The only difference I've noticed is the ZPE device seems to have
an embedded 5G cellular module.


On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 at 09:34, Andrew Latham via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
wrote:

Dan

I have stacks and stacks of serial console servers. Today I mostly use
an https://www.coolgear.com/product/32-port-rs-232-usb-to-serial-adapter
with some pictures of the guts at
https://lathama.net/Tech/Hardware/USB-32COM-RM if interested. It is my
solution to a quick build of an https://freetserv.github.io/

(I have seen some things)

On Wed, Dec 17, 2025 at 5:51 PM Dan Mahoney via NANOG
<nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

Hey there folks.

Dayjob has historically used USB TTY pods attached to real BSD machines
to talk to our cisco consoles, with the amazing benefit that with a program
like Vixie's rtty (or conserver) you can also capture the output of those
consoles in real-time, and perhaps use that data to identify a connected
device.

As a bonus, because the rackmount devices have real DE-9's on them, it
means they work with any kind of cable you get (not just your standard rj45
cisco rollover like you might get with a Cyclades thing -- and you don't
have to come up with the weird-ass mappings for rj45-serial like you might
need like our ME4012 NAS (the serial cable is a stereo plug), our smart
power strips (it's either a stereo plug, or an rj12), or something like an
older brocade switch (it's a DE9, but it's friggin ODD, and I think it may
also be the wrong gender).

It also means, since you're running a real OS, you have patches as long
as the OS is supported (so you're not stuck with "gee it only speaks
rsa1024"), versus some EOL appliance.  But it's also 2u, and since we're
recently buying a lot of Dell hardware, that's Super Overkill for a dell,
so I'm evaluating maybe just going "Appliance".

If we stick with an existing unix box for this, I'd want something with
proper IPMI/OOB (so Rpi is out) but maybe the dumbest, shallowest-depth
atom64 supermicro you can find, in the event you need to do a reinstall or
catch a hung system.

Are there things that other folks are using that are "easy" to work with
that you've found to have Long firmware lives, decent warranties and low
hassle?  Does anything these days actually have DE9s on it?

-Dan

(You may have also seen my note earlier about the Cisco ASR920, which
has RS232 pins in a USB-A header.  No, not via a PL2032 chip inside the
host that provides a virtual serial...direct txd/rxd/gnd/cts etc, on the
USB pins.  I've seen things you people would't believe)
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