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Re: Hardware question


From: Riley O via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 16:50:55 +0000

The optical world does have a well fit solution, in the form of optical line taps... I've never used the independent 
modules, but it's common to see them integrated into a MUX as a monitor port.

Quick search found this:
https://www.showmecables.com/by-category/patch-panels/fiber-optic-systems/passive-optical-taps

I'd contend this is better, as they start and end passive, avoiding a state change in a failure scenario. Although, 
un-networked devices in the middle of a circuit can become problematic if undocumented. The last thing you want is to 
be hunting down failed splices, when the answer is a loose connection in a datacenter.

Probably good if you can have some type of networked monitoring platform in line with one of these.

From the sounds of it though, OP would need his device to be addressable via one of the connections it is 
monitoring... and passive taps are unidirectional. As far as optical networking goes, a passive solution would require 
some type of multiplexing, which implies special equipment at midpsan, A, and Z ends of the circuit. 


- Riley


On Monday, June 23rd, 2025 at 9:41 AM, Kevin Shymkiw via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:





I have seen several Fail To Wire (FTW) switches in the past. I never found
them to be worthwhile, personally for a few reasons


- Only available in Copper. - You can't FTW optical since you need an OEO
conversion


- Failure scenarios were limited - Our sites didn't have backup power, so
it was pointless as we would lose the rest of the gear as well


Just my $.02


Kevin


On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 9:34 AM Craig Smith via NANOG nanog () lists nanog org


wrote:


Hello,


Is anyone out there aware of a fail safe switch/router/1U server where upon
power failure or watchdog event 2 ports would fail to pass through
data, but could also be assigned an IP address and act as a bridge in
"normal" mode? The desire is to have an appliance that could perform
monitoring and send telemetry in between a customer device and an Internet
connection but not create a single point of failure or require multiple ISP
handoffs.


Best,


Craig
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