Re: is it just me or...

[Randy Bush via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

> The IETF is currently working on a follow-on to DKIM tentatively named
> DKIM2 that is intended among other things to do what ARC was supposed
> to do in a more scalable and verifiable way.

so i took your message, removed classic '^(To|From|Subject|Date):' and
the actual text you wrote, leaving only the cruft that decades of ietf
email standards work produces to add some sort of credibility to it and
got

    $ wc foo
          55     299    5224 foo

and the purpose of much of it is to validate the servers on the *path*
the message followed; when i really do not give much of a damn about
the servers or the path.

what i actually care about is:
  - authenticity: that you sent the message, for some value of "you,"
    maybe your email addy[0],
  - integrity: it was not altered (and, in this case it was, both
    headers and text, thanks to dmarc, mailmate, etc.), and 
  - confidentiality: for some, not this, email privacy is needed

from my pov there is a serious disconnect here

< shaking of fist at clouds >

randy, a dinosaur who still uses pgp for email with passwords etc.

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[0] - i am sure the ietf could spin up a working group or three to go
      down this identity rabbit hole
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