nanog mailing list archives

Re: is it just me or...


From: Randy Bush via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 15:12:19 -0700

what i actually care about is:
 - authenticity: that you sent the message, for some value of "you,"
   maybe your email addy[0],
 - integrity: it was not altered (and, in this case it was, both
   headers and text, thanks to dmarc, mailmate, etc.), and
 - confidentiality: for some, not this, email privacy is needed

from my pov there is a serious disconnect here

On my small system I feel pretty much the way you do, but large
systems have different issues.  Someone will get a plausible sender to
send them a message with spammy contents, then they will resend that
message unaltered to a zillion recipients at large mail systems which
is hard to detect quickly since the DKIM, DMARC et al. are all OK.
Being able to see there is an extra hop or two in the path that
doesn't look like a mailing list is useful for them.

and 30+ years of email content and protocol hacking driven by that view
has worked sooooo well

randy
_______________________________________________
NANOG mailing list 
https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog () lists nanog org/message/6AW54RCTAG5PHKH7QJS7IS2RAP6OKJPL/


Current thread: