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Re: Engineering problems, not legal problems [was: Amazon AWS cloudfront WAF block]


From: Tom Beecher via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Thu, 29 May 2025 17:14:59 -0400


You can think of a demand letter as the
last engineering solution you try before falling back on legal
processes to compel change.


The last engineering solution is always the one right before the lawyers
get involved.

On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 4:35 PM William Herrin via NANOG <
nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 12:37 PM patrick via NANOG
<nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
I think this has really blown off course. Someone simply wants to find a
knowledgable person inside a very large organization so their relatively
small org can follow whatever rules are necessary to get off a list. The
point of demand letters & lawsuits are, IMHO, either someone’s
frustration showing or hyperbole or perhaps engineers not
understanding how the law works.

Hi Patrick,

The point of demand letters is to cut through the bureaucracy to that
"knowledgeable person" you mentioned. When the organization offers
more reasonable ways to reach that "knowledgeable person," demand
letters are rarely necessary. You can think of a demand letter as the
last engineering solution you try before falling back on legal
processes to compel change.

Regards,
Bill Herrin



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