Re: [NANOG] Re: [NANOG] Re: Geofeeds are good — was Re: Publishing BGP communties for your network (Re: What's up with BGP communities?)

[Abdullah DevRel of IPinfo via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

Hi Peter,

I agree with you. We do use geofeed as a data source. However, verifiable and good geofeed only represents a very small 
source of our data. I deeply respect your and NANOG community's opinion and expertise.

For us, operating at a global scale where we have to process billions and billions of IP addresses from thousands of 
network operators. You will be surprised how little accuracy is in the geofeed.

Active measurements represent a practical improvement over a theoretical geofeed system that is consistently true, 
verifiable, and accurate. Geofeed is a trust-based system, and our customer base largely is in cybersecurity where 
"zero trust" is their foundational principle.

For example, you mentioned that we do not correctly map your prefixes. A single support chat message could help us fall 
back to using your geofeed as we get the region right based on active measurement. Just a single message from you to 
our support is why I am here. The active measurement will still be used as a foundational layer of data, while we will 
use your geofeed to improve the granularity of the data.

But if you want me to make this mutually beneficial arrangement, sell us a server in your facility: 
https://forms.gle/kNYr2MBL8zRPgNrJ8 

I am here for absolute accountability. The reason I am here is to ask you to please tell me if you see an error, like 
you have shared here. That added layer of verification of geofeed could be considered as someone just telling us that 
we are wrong, or ideally, allowing us to purchase a server with you. That way we can guarantee constant accuracy.

— Abdullah | DevRel, IPinfo
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