Re: [NANOG] Re: Geofeeds are good — was Re: Publishing BGP communties for your network (Re: What's up with BGP communities?)

[Abdullah DevRel of IPinfo via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

Hi,

I think I failed to demonstrate the scale of the ProbeNet operations.

For us, having a handful of servers in each data center is enough and will reduce the RTT of the peering ASN and nearby 
networks. So, we constantly need to expand to other diverse networks. It is pretty easy to buy a few servers in Western 
Europe, the East coast, and the South coast of the United States. However, when you want to buy a server in the 
Caribbean, Oceania, or African countries outside of South Africa and Nigeria, I think the procurement effort, 
maintenance, and service costs are much more complex than you can imagine.

We have some servers that cost $5, maybe a dozen. However, I really don't want to use our financial investment in 
ProbeNet as a scale to show the complexities of running an operation with 1,300 servers

We currently PoP presence in ~520 ASNs. I think this fact largely demonstrates that no VPN companies, nor any CDN 
companies, nor any companies outside of crowdsourced research network have reached the level of network diversity that 
we currently have. It is not 1,300 X $5 . 

> There are (a) geoip data providers, (b) geoip data users/buyers, and (c) networks in the middle that bear much of the 
> cost of what a and c are doing.

I am not sure I understand your logic:
- (a) IP geolocation data providers: IPinfo
- (b) IP geolocation data users/buyers: IPinfo Customers
- (c) Networks in the middle: You 

What (c) Networks in the middle are bearing the cost of (a) IPinfo and (c) you are doing. I am not sure I understand 
the logic. What cost are we talking about?

— Abdullah | DevRel, IPinfo
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