Re: BGP user friendliness (was Re: IPv4 flag day)

[Tom Beecher via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

> Is there any current effort underway to make BGP more accessible,
> user-friendly, or "plug and play?" Anything that might address some of
> the more technically demanding aspects of multihoming?


Simple BGP config is not that demanding. If you're going to connect a
device to the public internet with BGP, it should require a basic level of
competence.

CPE vendors might set up web pages that request IPs and an ASN for you.
> Sets up ROAs, IRR, and the CPE, start to finish.


None of this stuff should be 'ez-mode' for the uninformed user.  Heck,
informed users make a mess of it a lot of the time.

Home install kits and plug and play doesn't work at a certain point. Stop
trying to shoehorn it.

On Sun, Jun 21, 2026 at 11:23 PM Brian Knight via NANOG <
nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

> Is there any current effort underway to make BGP more accessible,
> user-friendly, or "plug and play?" Anything that might address some of
> the more technically demanding aspects of multihoming?
>
> Quick Google says no, but maybe someone has more awareness.
>
> I'm pipe-dreaming BGP multihoming becoming as simple as connecting two
> Internet links to a CPE, with no reduction in MTU. No SD-WAN, no
> tunnels, no NAT. Works over any kind of link: 5G, wifi, GPON, cable,
> fiber, carrier pigeon.
>
> CPE vendors might set up web pages that request IPs and an ASN for you.
> Sets up ROAs, IRR, and the CPE, start to finish.
>
> Maybe there's a new protocol where the carrier auto-generates a BGP
> multihoming token and sends it to the user in the order docs. User sets
> the token on the CPE interface facing that provider. Successful
> negotiation lets the customer announce their prefix and ASN. CPE and
> carrier manage it all, no network staff needed.
>
> -Brian
>
>
> On 2026-06-21 19:29, Dorn Hetzel via NANOG wrote:
> > Sure, have every hotdog cart run BGP, pretty soon we'll need 64 bit AS
> > numbers :)
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 21, 2026 at 6:29 PM Mike Hammett via NANOG <
> > nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
> >
> > > Most pizza shops aren't going to be able to manage BGP.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Mike Hammett
> > > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > >
> > > Midwest Internet Exchange
> > >
> > > The Brothers WISP
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