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Re: IPv4 flag day
From: Nick Hilliard via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2026 14:04:54 +0100
Tom Beecher via NANOG wrote on 22/06/2026 13:28:
Nor should they. Stop trying to over-engineer solutions. Not everything needs hyper performant connectivity with sub second failover.
no-one is going to get bgp based provider resilience with sub-second failover. 60-90 seconds would be a more realistic expectation for global convergence due to lots of providers having slow control planes / high churn and non-zero mrai. That's quite apart from the technical complication of bgp. And the general cost to other peoples' FIBs and control planes.
NAT can be tuned far faster than BGP could ever successfully fail over, at the expense of session termination and the very minor nuisance of header address translation. It would be silly for most organisations to do anything other than some NAT variant.
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- Re: IPv4 flag day Tom Beecher via NANOG (Jun 22)
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- RE: IPv4 flag day Gary Sparkes via NANOG (Jun 16)
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