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[NANOG] Re: ISPs in Spain are blocking CDN IP ranges to tackle soccer piracy


From: Gary Sparkes via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 01:42:21 +0000

They're not the good guy in terms of being a centralized service, perhaps, but the technology they've introduced and 
are pushing is technology I happily and enthusiastically deploy myself on my own services, though since I'm not going 
through their CDN you can still easily block/restrict my services.

That, I think, is an important part to remember - the only fault cloudflare has here is being used by many services, 
the technology, however, is needed and should be widely adopted by all services. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Constantine A. Murenin via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> 
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2025 9:39 PM
To: nanog () immibis com
Cc: North American Network Operators Group <nanog () lists nanog org>; Constantine A. Murenin <mureninc () gmail com>
Subject: [NANOG] Re: ISPs in Spain are blocking CDN IP ranges to tackle soccer piracy

Not quite, because the entire Wikipedia in all languages is then simply blocked, so, they're not even able to read any 
of the other articles from Wikipedia either, in any language.  This violates primal protocol design principles of 
flexibility and resilience, business continuity and backwards compatibility.

Also, the same principle that prevents Spain from selectively blocking a single Cloudflare site, also prevents me, as a 
network administrator, in the privacy of my own home, from blocking ads and other undesirable resources throughout the 
entirety of my home network, on all devices, in bulk.

And after the ability to do this network-wide blocking has been removed, Cloudflare's partners are also slowly but 
surely removing the ability to block said content within your own endpoint devices, too, by removing all the 
ad-blockers from all the stores, and preventing relevant API access from within the browser, too; plus making it a ToS 
violation to alter website contents through a plug-in.  Sorry, but Cloudflare is not a good guy in this story.

On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 at 18:20, <nanog () immibis com> wrote:
The same principle that prevents Spain from selectively blocking a 
single Cloudflare site also prevents dictators from murdering anyone 
in the country who edits their Wikipedia page unfavourably, so keep 
that in mind.
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