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[NANOG] Re: ISPs in Spain are blocking CDN IP ranges to tackle soccer piracy


From: Tom Beecher via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 10:30:21 -0400


Also, the same principle that prevents Spain from selectively blocking
a single Cloudflare site, also prevents me, as a network
administrator, in the privacy of my own home, from blocking ads and
other undesirable resources throughout the entirety of my home
network, on all devices, in bulk.


Strange, I do that on my home network and it works just fine.

It's not a CDN's responsibility :
A : To help a country enforce a law that was written without considering
the technical ways in which it could be enforced
B : To help if an improper technical solution is chosen that impacts other
services as well

On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 9:40 PM Constantine A. Murenin via NANOG <
nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

Not quite, because the entire Wikipedia in all languages is then
simply blocked, so, they're not even able to read any of the other
articles from Wikipedia either, in any language.  This violates primal
protocol design principles of flexibility and resilience, business
continuity and backwards compatibility.

Also, the same principle that prevents Spain from selectively blocking
a single Cloudflare site, also prevents me, as a network
administrator, in the privacy of my own home, from blocking ads and
other undesirable resources throughout the entirety of my home
network, on all devices, in bulk.

And after the ability to do this network-wide blocking has been
removed, Cloudflare's partners are also slowly but surely removing the
ability to block said content within your own endpoint devices, too,
by removing all the ad-blockers from all the stores, and preventing
relevant API access from within the browser, too; plus making it a ToS
violation to alter website contents through a plug-in.  Sorry, but
Cloudflare is not a good guy in this story.

On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 at 18:20, <nanog () immibis com> wrote:
The same principle that prevents Spain from selectively blocking a
single Cloudflare site also prevents dictators from murdering anyone in
the country who edits their Wikipedia page unfavourably, so keep that in
mind.
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