Re: IPv4 Pricing

[Mu via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

the reason "you still need v4 for a working Internet" is because people like you keep saying crap like "v6 is a joke".
thanks for that!

On Monday, December 1st, 2025 at 10:08 AM, Josh Luthman via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

> Aaron,
>
> As a small operator I would ask why you need a /29 the first place. Second
> why don't you just get your own ASN?
>
> Are you willing to pay more to support v6? Or do you think the ISP should
> add that service for free?
>
> Imo v6 is a joke because you still need v4 for a working Internet. I
> understand there are benefits but this is 2025 and you can't get by without
> v4.
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2025, 10:03 AM Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG <
> nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
>
> > I wish they were dropping in my area.
> > I called my backwoods ISP last week (they are a monopoly with ~4,000 fiber
> > customers) to go from a single static at my office to a /29 and they said
> > "It's $300/mo".
> > I asked why it was so high and they said "My boss doesn't like configuring
> > them, so he set the price really high".
> > Then I asked when IPv6 would be available and got the same answer I got
> > back in 2019: "My boss said he was thinking about looking into it next
> > year".
> >
> > -A
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 6:12 PM Tom Mitchell via NANOG <
> > nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
> >
> > > v4 addresses have been dropping rapidly. They were as high as $65 last
> > > year. Now, there are offers for $11. Average market price now is in the
> > > mid-$20's. All the NA ISPs have been selling much of their inventory.
> > > Why
> > > not.
> > >
> > > - Tom
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 11:23 AM Mike Hammett via NANOG <
> > > nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > What are you using for guides for IPv4 pricing? There are a bunch of
> > > > undated blogs, which don't mean much if there's no date.
> > > >
> > > > Hilco's blog says somewhere around $27 for a /22 to /24:
> > > > https://www.ipv4.global/reports/october-2025/
> > > > but then fast forward a month on their auction page and it's down to
> > > > $22:
> > > > https://auctions.ipv4.global/prior-sales
> > > >
> > > > These guys stopped updating in June:
> > > > https://ipv4market.eu/ipv4-market-average-sale-prices-2025/
> > > >
> > > > -----
> > > > Mike Hammett
> > > > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > > > http://www.ics-il.com
> > > >
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