Re: IPv4 Pricing

[Mu via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

it has not "shown" anything, and especially not globally.
this thread has done nothing except rehash the same viewpoints that get discussed ad nauseam for the last however many 
years.

On Monday, December 1st, 2025 at 10:56 AM, Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com> wrote:

> I need a business reason to make the business do IPv6. I do not need a technical reason. This thread has shown there 
> is no business use case for global IPv6.
>
> I also want to throw this out there: Metronet residential (last I heard 7th largest fiber provider in the US, this 
> was well before the Tmobile acquisition) doesn't even give out public IPs. They do IPv4 only CGNAT. You can get a /32 
> static at $15/mo (in some areas).
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 10:51 AM Mu <mu () zuqq me> wrote:
>
> > the reason "you still need v4 for a working Internet" is because people like you keep saying crap like "v6 is a 
> > joke".
> > thanks for that!
> >
> > On Monday, December 1st, 2025 at 10:08 AM, Josh Luthman via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
> >
> > > Aaron,
> > >
> > > As a small operator I would ask why you need a /29 the first place. Second
> > > why don't you just get your own ASN?
> > >
> > > Are you willing to pay more to support v6? Or do you think the ISP should
> > > add that service for free?
> > >
> > > Imo v6 is a joke because you still need v4 for a working Internet. I
> > > understand there are benefits but this is 2025 and you can't get by without
> > > v4.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2025, 10:03 AM Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG <
> > > nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I wish they were dropping in my area.
> > > > I called my backwoods ISP last week (they are a monopoly with ~4,000 fiber
> > > > customers) to go from a single static at my office to a /29 and they said
> > > > "It's $300/mo".
> > > > I asked why it was so high and they said "My boss doesn't like configuring
> > > > them, so he set the price really high".
> > > > Then I asked when IPv6 would be available and got the same answer I got
> > > > back in 2019: "My boss said he was thinking about looking into it next
> > > > year".
> > > >
> > > > -A
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 6:12 PM Tom Mitchell via NANOG <
> > > > nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > v4 addresses have been dropping rapidly. They were as high as $65 last
> > > > > year. Now, there are offers for $11. Average market price now is in the
> > > > > mid-$20's. All the NA ISPs have been selling much of their inventory.
> > > > > Why
> > > > > not.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Tom
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 11:23 AM Mike Hammett via NANOG <
> > > > > nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > What are you using for guides for IPv4 pricing? There are a bunch of
> > > > > > undated blogs, which don't mean much if there's no date.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hilco's blog says somewhere around $27 for a /22 to /24:
> > > > > > https://www.ipv4.global/reports/october-2025/
> > > > > > but then fast forward a month on their auction page and it's down to
> > > > > > $22:
> > > > > > https://auctions.ipv4.global/prior-sales
> > > > > >
> > > > > > These guys stopped updating in June:
> > > > > > https://ipv4market.eu/ipv4-market-average-sale-prices-2025/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > Mike Hammett
> > > > > > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > > > > > http://www.ics-il.com
> > > > > >
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