Re: SPF/DKIM/DMARC et.al.: REALLY LONG [was: is it just me or...]

[Michael Thomas via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

On 7/3/25 6:02 PM, Alex Buie via NANOG wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 7:43 PM Michael Thomas via NANOG <
> nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
>
> > On 7/3/25 5:33 PM, Alex Buie via NANOG wrote:
> > > "the more you try to outsource critical thinking to a machine that cannot
> > > critically think, the more and more you will get duped by scammers"
> > >
> > >
> > > SPF/DKIM/DMARC are all automated ways to try and outsource truthiness
> > > checks to machines. they make people feel comfortable with their result.
> > so
> > > much so they stop actually using their brains to protect themselves.
> > So by all means, let's get rid of TLS as well. ::eyeroll::
> >
> > Mike
> I'm not saying to get rid of any of these things. I'm just saying expecting
> them to replace user training in critical thinking is foolish, and overall,
> the point Rich made makes sense. If you tell people "as long as you check
> these things you can trust it" they are way more likely to believe
> something unbelievable if it has all those "you can trust me" flags.

Good thing nobody thought that it's a substitute. Making incremental 
improvements don't have to be viewed as, uh, cure-alls. That would be, 
uh, foolish.

Mike

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