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Re: SPF/DKIM/DMARC et.al.: REALLY LONG [was: is it just me or...]


From: John Levine via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: 5 Jul 2025 16:11:26 -0400

It appears that Michael Thomas via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> said:
Email doesn't even have that. Thunderbird, which is what I use, has 
precisely *nothing* to say about DKIM/SPF/DMARC. 

Well, yeah. As you surely know as well as anyone, if a message is
authenticated that tells you nothing about whether it's mail you want
or mail that's malicious. For that you need a reputation system that
knows something about the domain that's authenticated. That seems a lot
easier to do at delivery time and put the bad ones in the Junk folder,
or don't deliver them at all.

Do you have any visibility into, say, MAAWG and why they don't take this 
up as a standards effort? 

Honestly, they'd just laugh. It's not a new idea, and there is a great
deal of experience that says asking users to make security decisions in
the UI mostly adds confusion.

On the other hand, if you use Thunderbird, I don't think it'd be very
hard to write a plugin that looks at the Authentication-Results:
header and adds locks or skulls and crossbones to the message display.
Try it, tell us how you like it.

You can start with this one:

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/dkim-verifier/

R's,
John
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