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Re: Encryption is now illegal? (Re: U.S. Secret Service shuts down NYC cellular disruption network)
From: David Conrad via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2025 17:15:49 +0000
On Sep 24, 2025, at 9:56 AM, Tom Beecher via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
Upon actually reading the article, this looks overblown, typical of the current regime. Having a lot of SIM cards, a lot of phones, having phones in a rack-mount form factor, and plugging SIM cards into things that are not phones are not illegal. The fact that a cellphone network could be overloaded by a lot of phones doesn't make it illegal to have a lot of phones. Even if it /does/ overload the cellphone network, AFAIK it's still not illegal unless that was your intention.Yes, it's very overblown. The reports say these items were found inside of a "35 mile radius" of the UN. The total population inside that area is roughly 17 million people. 100k SIMs is a rounding error relative to the number of cellular network devices in that area.
Perhaps of interest: https://cybersect.substack.com/p/that-secret-service-sim-farm-story Regards, -drc
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