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Re: Encryption is now illegal? (Re: U.S. Secret Service shuts down NYC cellular disruption network)


From: David Conrad via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2025 17:15:49 +0000



On Sep 24, 2025, at 9:56 AM, Tom Beecher via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
Upon actually reading the article, this looks overblown, typical of the current regime.

Having a lot of SIM cards, a lot of phones, having phones in a
rack-mount form factor, and plugging SIM cards into things that are not
phones are not illegal.

The fact that a cellphone network could be overloaded by a lot of phones
doesn't make it illegal to have a lot of phones. Even if it /does/
overload the cellphone network, AFAIK it's still not illegal unless that
was your intention.

Yes, it's very overblown.

The reports say these items were found inside of a "35 mile radius" of the
UN. The total population inside that area is roughly 17 million people.

100k SIMs is a rounding error relative to the number of cellular network
devices in that area.

Perhaps of interest:

https://cybersect.substack.com/p/that-secret-service-sim-farm-story

Regards,
-drc


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