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RE: IPv4 flag day
From: Gary Sparkes via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2026 19:26:16 +0000
Well, you have the same problem with v4 or v6. In this scenario we’re talking about, you have two separate IPv4 ranges (one per provider) anyway. So the mechanisms are all still entirely the same. But as I was noting, there’s ULA addressing, so you’re not renumbering at all when you move ISPs internally, NPT handles that on the front end for you. In enterprise, well, you don’t have this concern, you’ll be using BGP on your links. Or tunneling to datacenters/central appliances, or what have you. From: Aaron C. de Bruyn <aaron () heyaaron com> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2026 3:22 PM To: North American Network Operators Group <nanog () lists nanog org> Cc: sronan () ronan-online com; Marco Moock <mm () dorfdsl de>; Gary Sparkes <gary () kisaracorporation com> Subject: Re: IPv4 flag day On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 12:06 PM Gary Sparkes via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org<mailto:nanog () lists nanog org>> wrote: Internal clients are 1:1 NPT'd to provider addresses, and on failover, the internal addressing doesn't change, but all the traffic flips to the other provider's addresses. And now we've got to have a mechanism to update external DNS for the SMB or Enterprise that hosts their own MX, a remote access server, and all those SSH port forwards the IT guys use to remotely access/manage stuff. I thought I was promised an IPv6 where there were so many dang addresses that every business could have their own *public* /48 with enough room left over to allocate a /48 to every molecule on the planet or whatever. I don't want to renumber everything because I ditch one ISP and switch to another. In IPv4 I don't have to thanks to RFC1918 space. In IPv6 I guess I have fc00::/7 that gets allocated "pseudo-randomly". So in IPv6 I either have to renumber because I ditched some ISP for another...or I have to pay for my addressing space and my ISPs have to support routing my address space, right? -A _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog () lists nanog org/message/YBKTBF7YXQ5HPEWAKYX6OINN7Y6BGYXI/
Current thread:
- Re: IPv4 flag day, (continued)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Arie Vayner via NANOG (Jun 18)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Saku Ytti via NANOG (Jun 18)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Marco Moock via NANOG (Jun 19)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Pedro Prado via NANOG (Jun 19)
- RE: IPv4 flag day Gary Sparkes via NANOG (Jun 19)
- Re: IPv4 flag day sronan--- via NANOG (Jun 19)
- RE: IPv4 flag day Gary Sparkes via NANOG (Jun 19)
- Re: IPv4 flag day sronan--- via NANOG (Jun 19)
- RE: IPv4 flag day Gary Sparkes via NANOG (Jun 19)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG (Jun 19)
- RE: IPv4 flag day Gary Sparkes via NANOG (Jun 19)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Marco Moock via NANOG (Jun 19)
- RE: IPv4 flag day Gary Sparkes via NANOG (Jun 19)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG (Jun 19)
- RE: IPv4 flag day Gary Sparkes via NANOG (Jun 19)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Marco Moock via NANOG (Jun 19)
- Re: IPv4 flag day sronan--- via NANOG (Jun 19)
- RE: IPv4 flag day Gary Sparkes via NANOG (Jun 19)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Marco Moock via NANOG (Jun 19)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG (Jun 19)
- RE: IPv4 flag day Gary Sparkes via NANOG (Jun 19)
