Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse

[Jon Lewis via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2025, Christopher Morrow via NANOG wrote:

> The problem(s) from jared's original mail SOUND like a broken thing in 
> some services that PROBABLY tried to provide protections, those either 
> missed the mark or work broken along some timeline... and maybe need 
> some attention to fix/course-correct.

I think part of what Jared is complaining about is something I've 
complained about for years.  For many years, spammers have abused Google 
groups.  i.e. They're apparently able to create a group, import address 
lists to it, and then spam by emailing the group.  Abuse complaints are 
ignored.  I eventually setup a procmail rule to automatically turn 
messages from one such Google group into ARF formatted complaints to 
abuse () google com rather than deliver them to me.

It sounds like you may have created additional vectors I'm not familiar 
with for spammers to abuse.

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