Re: what kind of spam, was Worsening google service reputation and abuse

["John R. Levine via NANOG" <nanog () lists nanog org>]

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025, bzs () theworld com wrote:
> All I've said thus far is that spammers' business models seem fragile
> and brittle and to rely on sending around a billion messages per day
> per each and perhaps it would be better to disrupt that business model

I dunno about you, but most of the spam that makes it into my inbox is B2B 
junk from throwaway accounts at the big three providers.  It's never the 
same address twice so I believe they are buying spamming kits with a bunch 
of addresses and instructions on how to set up accounts, spam until 
they're shut down, repeat indefinitely.  That's at most thousands at a 
time, not billions.  The messages are usually either turbo charge my 
(often nonexistent) website, virtual remote cold callers, or occsionally 
business loans which makes me wonder why the providers can't shut them 
down faster.

Unfortunately, under CAN SPAM the spamming kits are arguably legal.

> than to engineer yet another filtering / validation technology.

My electric shock proposal isn't filtering and it'd be a stretch to call 
it validation.

R's,
John
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