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Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse
From: John Levine via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: 19 Aug 2025 18:20:57 -0400
It appears that Michael Thomas via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> said:
Since this is a network operator list, here's my question. What percentage of traffic is spam? That is, total traffic? My guess is that it's minuscule. That and how negatively does it cut into bottom line for an operator like an ISP? I hardly see ISP based email anymore these days.
In terms of percentage of total bits, I'm sure you're right. Mail is a sliver of bandwidth, spam is between half and 90% of that. The problems are on the one hand, having a mailbox full of spam makes mail less useful (I am so tired of my morning B2B blasts from Outlook and Gmail), but on the other a lot of is linked to real crime with significant financial consequences to the victims. I agree that the incentives are skewed, with little incentive for ISPs to deal with it. I note that Comcast who used to run a large mail system recently handed it all over to Yahoo, presumably because Yahoo has economies of scale they don't. R's, John _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog () lists nanog org/message/5HB53KCL7LOOINSTEUVRGPNOP6VLIA4Z/
Current thread:
- Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse, (continued)
- Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse Michael Thomas via NANOG (Aug 19)
- Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse Josh Reynolds via NANOG (Aug 19)
- Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse Michael Thomas via NANOG (Aug 19)
- Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse John Levine via NANOG (Aug 19)
- Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse Josh Reynolds via NANOG (Aug 19)
- Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse Michael Thomas via NANOG (Aug 19)
- Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse Christopher Morrow via NANOG (Aug 19)
- Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse John Levine via NANOG (Aug 19)
- Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse Christopher Morrow via NANOG (Aug 19)
- Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse Michael Thomas via NANOG (Aug 19)
- Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse John Levine via NANOG (Aug 19)
- Re: spam is complicated, Worsening google service reputation and abuse John Levine via NANOG (Aug 19)
- Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse Mike Hammett via NANOG (Aug 18)
- Re: anti-spam WKBIs, Worsening google service reputation and abuse John Levine via NANOG (Aug 16)
- Re: anti-spam WKBIs, Worsening google service reputation and abuse Matthew Petach via NANOG (Aug 16)
- Re: anti-spam WKBIs, Worsening google service reputation and abuse Damian Menscher via NANOG (Aug 16)
- Re: anti-spam WKBIs, Worsening google service reputation and abuse Matthew Petach via NANOG (Aug 16)
- Re: anti-spam WKBIs, Worsening google service reputation and abuse John Levine via NANOG (Aug 16)
- Re: anti-spam WKBIs, Worsening google service reputation and abuse John Kristoff via NANOG (Aug 21)
- Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse Barry Shein via NANOG (Aug 16)
- Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse Suresh Ramasubramanian via NANOG (Aug 17)
