Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse

[Michael Thomas via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

On 8/19/25 3:24 PM, John Levine via NANOG wrote:
> It appears that Josh Reynolds via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> said:
> > Interesting. Do you have any links about this? I was talking to him a few
> > months back about some things.
> You can read about it in the IETF DKIM working group and its
> ietf-dkim mailing list.
>
> Let's just say that Mike and I disagree about its likely utility.

The problem basically boils down to ESP's not policing their users. 
That's a social problem, not a technical problem. Wholesale 
wheel-reinvention is not the answer. That and the people pursuing this 
are extremely dismissive and don't have a good track record, cf ARC.

Mike

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