Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse

[John Levine via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

It appears that Mike Hammett via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> said:
> Important in what you said is the ability to seek redress. The Internet often doesn't provide good means of seeking 
> redress.

You can always get a refund of what you paid for the mail they don't deliver.

R's,
John

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <ops.lists () gmail com>
> To: "North American Network Operators Group" <nanog () lists nanog org>
> Cc: "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net>
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2025 9:36:33 AM
> Subject: Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse
>
>
> Truth. Reduced to its simplest terms, if the way you run (or don’t bother to run) your network causes issues to other 
> networks,
> those networks may take whatever action necessary to protect their network, systems and users. 
>
>
> The problem of random, indiscriminate blocking and no possible redress was why these community / industry 
> organizations and best
> practices came about. So there are at least processes that you can follow to get yourself unblocked, worst comes to 
> worst. 
>
>
> The other best practices about keeping bad actors off your network? Well, they seem much more difficult in practice 
> than on paper.
> Even the most proactive organization can’t avoid it 100%, despite their spending time and effort on it. Orgs that 
> don’t care or
> don’t want to know about the problem? No need to say anything further about those. 
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