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Re: What do you consider acceptable packet / session modification for a network operator?


From: Pedro Prado via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2025 22:47:48 +0000

Is QUIC also affected in any way?

Sent from my iPhone

On 26 Dec 2025, at 22:31, Tim Burke via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

I think the general stance, at least in my opinion, is that it may be acceptable for a non-fixed broadband service 
(e.g., cell phone service), while it is not for a fixed broadband (FTTP or otherwise). I fully expect CGNAT, a basic 
level of packet mangling in an effort to maximize performance on the cell network, etc., while I am hopping between 
several different cell towers in an area along with thousands of other users, in an effort to improve the experience 
of services commonly used on a cell phone… but not so much if I am sitting in my house, connected via my own network, 
to a wired broadband connection.

On Dec 25, 2025, at 5:44 PM, andrew--- via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

So the tl;dr I'm getting from this is that

- I don't think anyone considers this 'acceptable' for an ISP

- Everyone knows that AT&T does it anyway

I haven't found any documentation on how or why AT&T is actually doing this, so it's all either very old or they've 
scrubbed it from the internet (I know they deleted their whole forums, and it seems like some of the discussion was 
formerly there)
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