[NANOG] Re: [NANOG]Re: Request to Reinstate Feeless BGP Sessions with Enhanced Security Measures

[Josh Luthman via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

> There are plenty of them out there.

As a rural network operator, that is simply false.  We have had to build
fiber about 20 route miles ($1MM) to reach our second provider.  Our first
provider was 4 route miles.

Required BGP fees are a disease and messages like this produce awareness
for those of us that don't have a "plenty" of options in a single building.

On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 8:56 AM Christopher Hawker <chris () thesysadmin au>
wrote:

> It's not the first time OP has sent emails to the list or CC'ed the list
> on these emails that are IMO irrelevant, not to mention the fact that a
> large portion of what they've said has been disproven (see their previous
> email regarding the global IX with discounted peering and transit
> services). Can the list moderators do anything here?
>
> Hurricane Electric, like any other business, are entitled to run their
> network in any way they see fit. If their customers aren't happy with how
> they do operate their network, they can look for another transit provider
> that does meet their requirements. There are plenty of them out there.
>
> Regards,
> Christopher Hawker
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Josh Luthman via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 4, 2025 12:35 AM
> *To:* North American Network Operators Group <nanog () lists nanog org>
> *Cc:* info () he net <info () he net>; nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org>; Josh
> Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>
> *Subject:* [NANOG] Re: [NANOG]Re: Request to Reinstate Feeless BGP
> Sessions with Enhanced Security Measures
>
> Attention to Reinstate Feeless BGP Sessions with HE.  It's in the subject.
>
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 5:03 PM Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:
>
> > I’m not sure what you are attempting to gain by CCing this list on
> messages
> > like this, but please stop.
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 13:16 Volkan SALiH <volkan.salih.06 () gmail com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Mike Leber
> > > CEO, Hurricane Electric
> > > 760 Mission Court
> > > Fremont, CA 94539
> > > United States
> > >
> > > Subject: Request to Reinstate Feeless BGP Sessions with Enhanced
> > > Security Measures
> > >
> > > Dear Mr. Leber, and interested NANOG members;
> > >
> > > I hope this letter finds you well. I am writing to respectfully request
> > > the reinstatement of feeless BGP sessions by Hurricane Electric,
> > > considering the latest advancements in routing security and spam
> > > prevention.
> > >
> > > Recent developments in Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI)
> > > validation have significantly enhanced the security of internet
> routing,
> > > effectively mitigating the risk of man-in-the-middle attacks. RPKI
> > > ensures that only legitimate Autonomous Systems (AS) can announce
> > > specific IP prefixes, thereby increasing trust and reliability in BGP
> > > sessions.
> > >
> > > Additionally, to address concerns related to email abuse, it is now
> > > feasible to implement filtering on mail server ports (such as 25, 465,
> > > and 587) for feeless BGP sessions. By applying such restrictions,
> > > potential spam-related issues can be proactively managed while
> > > maintaining the accessibility and robustness of the service.
> > >
> > > The restoration of feeless BGP sessions, with these enhanced security
> > > measures in place, would provide substantial benefits to the global
> > > internet community by fostering network expansion, enhancing
> resilience,
> > > and ensuring a more secure routing environment.
> > >
> > > I sincerely appreciate the invaluable services that Hurricane Electric
> > > provides and trust that you will consider this request in light of the
> > > latest security improvements. Thank you for your time and attention to
> > > this matter. I look forward to your response.
> > >
> > > *Best regards,*
> > > VOLKAN SALİH
> > > ANTAKYA/HATAY/TURKIYE
> > > +90 540 415 5555
> > > +90 540 489 9999
> > >
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